Raw Data File
 
The Question: Should Church Manager
Rev. Linda Worobec be held accountable
for her Desecration of the Altar of the Holy
Grail on July 4, 2003 in King Arthur's Court?

 
Responses (Yes) - 102
 
 

Date

Response

Affiliation

Nation

Comments

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:55:18 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

UK

YES........ANY desecration of property is against the law....is it not?

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:28:24 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

Mercy is important, too.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:46:35 -0600

Yes

 

usa

I actually had a dream the night before the 4th of july 2003 and I would like to share it with you.

The Minnesota Vikings were playing a football game and Randy Moss the wide receiver who was being paid millions of dollars to play was never being thrown the ball even though he would be wide open down field so finally he wanted to be traded so he could be used for his great talent. What the symbology says to me is the Vikings colors which are purple and gold represents ministration. The quarterback represents the leadership and Randy Moss who is paid Millions of dollars represents the chelas and there causal body and talents that arent being used. The leadership is blind and cant see the truth. The Ministration who controls the team doesnt want to recognize the the talents of the chelas so they control the leadership who controls if the team wins or not.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:50:12 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

usa

I am not in the middle of the fray as many others are, so my complete knowledge of all the events going on is somewhat limited. However, I am deeply disturbed by any activity that distorts specific teachings which the masters have given us. We must all be held accountable for our actions. We must not bend the interpretation to suit individual activities. I fear

that the wonderful sponsorship of our beloved masters is being systematically replaced with the egos of unascended beings here on terra. If we fail in our mission I feel that earth will hang by only a thread.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:26:49 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Canada

Please do an overall poll on the Lightbearer's view of the overall performance of the leadership team.


Or wether they should give "due process" the previous Moscow board.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:25:09 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

 

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:07:19 -0600

Yes

Other

USA

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:34:58 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

UNited States of America

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:41:15 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

PARENTS WERE LATVIAN

 HAS IT BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THE DESECRATION TOOK PLACE? I WAS NOT THERE SO I AM GOING ON JUST WHAT I HAVE HEARD REPORTED.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:46:05 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

Great, Thanks for your efforts.


I am a communicant and have been in the church since 1980 but I am not "Tithing" communicant.


[name withheld]

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:24:11 -0600

Yes

Other

usa Indiana

i'm a former kof. During the late 90's i've been to two conferences in montana and one in virginia. Almost the very first thing I learned was about the destructive vibrations of rock music and i can't imagine such a thing occuring at King Arthur's Court. Was there no reaction at the time this happened from experienced keepers and church members? That seems hard to imagine too.

Thank you for choosing the narrow way and being a beacon in the darkness.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:23:01 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:47:50 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

usa

YOU NEED TO MAKE THE CASE FOR DESECRATION THE ALTAR CLEAR WHEN YOU ASK FOR A POLL. ALSO YOU HAVE TO PLACE REV WORBEC JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING WHAT SHE HAS DONE. AS IT STANDS NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY PASSED JUDGEMENT AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL. I VOTED AS SUCH BECAUSE I BELEIVE THAT NO BODY SHOULD DESECRATE THE ALTAR AND IF THEY DO THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:31:26 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

Rev. Linda Worobeck and all those who stood by and did nothing to stop her should be held responsible and need to go in peace immedeately by the grace of God.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:19:00 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

Are you going to let the leadership know the results -- good or bad?

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:20:13 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

Are you going to let the leadership know the results -- good or bad?


How can we know the results of your poll?

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:44:17 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

U.S.

I want to know when the Elders are going to

hold Neroli Duffy, Peter Duffy, Lois Drake,Linda Worbec , Kate Gordon , Tina Storti, Sydney Bennett Hertha Lund, Ken Frazier and Gene Vossler accountable

for the betrayal of the Great White Brotherhood , the defiling of the altar, the isolation and rejection of the Guru, the destruction of the Russian chelas , the logging in the inner retreat, and the wholesale decimation of our Church under there watch. If they aren't going to fulfill their responsibilities. Then they should step down also after they fire the entire lot of vipers who have usurped the office of

the Divine Mother and the trust of the Masters

[name withheld]

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:56:30 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

 

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:05:20 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Denmark

I also find it important that not only Linda Worobech, but all who have been a part of this, planning, allowing the event to take place and afterwards explaining away the facts without openly admitting the wrongdoing should be held accountable.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:37:20 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Sweden

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:54:24 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

United States

The leadership of the church is responsible to uphold the teachings of the Ascended Masters. If they are not willing to do so they should be removed from their position.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:22:12 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

Mexico city.

 

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:25:55 -0600

Yes

Pearl_Reader

 

I would just cation to sound as little like CCJ as possible, or the Accuser of the Brethern. I know they play that game, but it is not for us to play it also. I agree she should not have used Beatles music and that the Russian situation was completely mishandled and that we need new leadership. The question is how to arrive at this state. It seems the main congregation that still tithes and participates has not arrived at these conclusions and therefore, we get what we deserve. The White Paper was a sham! What is wrong with the rank and file when they refuse to raise their vibration to the level of the Christ and they tolerate all this garbage. They have no God Power.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:11:10 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

Linda is an apologist for those who have betrayed the Messenger and she is a betrayer herself. For that, God will hold her accountable, as He will hold all the chelas accountable for their chelaship under His anointed Guru.

 Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:44:14 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:20:50 -0600

Yes

Church_Staff

 

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:21:20 -0600

Yes

Church_Staff

 

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:30:11 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

Thank you for speaking up in this matter. We reallly need to keep the purity of the teachings and make accountable whoever wants to change them.


Thanks again,

A sister in the path,

[name withheld]

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:12:45 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

Australia

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 05:39:14 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Australia

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 07:42:29 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:01:22 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:52:18 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

North Carolina, USA

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:51:47 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 01:58:10 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

Australia

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:44:37 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

I was there in the court that night and could not believe what I was hearing. But then again, I had met Linda 3 months earlier and felt a vibration that I could not identify but I was definitely not comfortable in her presence. I had no idea of her position in the church when I met her nor when I heard her sing, but it did not surprise me that she would sing and perform in such a manner as she did. I walked out of the court before it was finished, feeling very disappointed in whoever organized that evening. I saw some people shaking the "entertainer's" hands afterwards, congratulating them on a "fine performance" and felt like I was in another world. It was a very dreamy feel, almost hypnotic. That day, with the 2 hispanic women missing and the songs that were sung, were obvious signs to me that the level of protection that had previously been on the RTR were not there. I felt it earlier that morning when I climbed Maitreya's Mountain. I kept wondering whether it was me feeling the loss of MOther's presence or that I was actually feeling the presence of many fallen ones and even aliens that had penetrated the force field of the RTR. I have no desire to return to the Ranch although if I felt a prompting from the Masters, I would go. But, I feel it's time for me to take the truth that I have found in these teachings and spread them to others in my own way, without feeling the watchful eye of the church leadership. In conclusion, YES, I do agree with you.

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:02:02 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

norway

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:49:24 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:20:42 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

Finland

 

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:46:25 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

America

Mother was pretty clear on the Beatles. I remember being at the Ranch camping out at the Heart. Some people had gathered together around the campfire and were singing Church and folk songs. Someone started singing a Beatles song, a really mellow one. One of Mother's daughters was there also. I believe is was her eldest daughter. I didn't know if this was ok so I looked to Mother's daughter, they hadn't even gotten one line out and Mother's daughter and another staff member who was with her very quietly startedted shaking thier heads "no", the Beatles song immediatly stopped and another song was started.


You can use this if you like.


Thanks for all your hard work.


[name withheld]

 Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:04:45 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:42:34 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

 

 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:27:29 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

usa

 

 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:27:47 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

usa

 

 Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:25:37 -0600

Yes

Other

 

keep them comeing ..

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:59:21 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Norway

I think Rev. Linda Worobec should swallow her pride,admit what she has done and ask for forgiveness.

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 04:08:59 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

 

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:50:43 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

 

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:43:52 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

 

 

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:11:35 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

 

 

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:07:01 -0600

Yes

Other

USA

Communicant/s, KoF/s, long-standing, serving devotee/s, non-staff leadership role/s. This vote may be used only if completely anonymous. It counts as two since my spouse also feels the same way.


The contest idea comes across as very dumb/lame. Actually discredits you. Drop it.

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:11:53 -0600

Yes

Church_Staff

 

 

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:10:14 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

I don't see the leadership of the CUT as a victim but as the tick itself. They act in a vampiric way, taking what is not theirs and feeding off of the Life and Light of the Sons and Daughters of God.

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:55:28 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA


let the elders of the church give to her a firm but lo-

ving rebuck and as Jesus said to Magda "go an sin no more", but this word should be uttered with the author-

ity of the Christ Self and beholding at the same time

the inmaculate concepcion radiated from the ther eye'schacra. That is the Truth that bringthe healing. Yes, we have to uncover the error, rebuqueit and heal the false concept about Man, we love our brother but we hate the sin. Litle broder, my inglish is not so perfect, so excuseme some orthografic errors, of course I do much better inspanish. Lovingly: your little old sister: [name withheld]


 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:13:15 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

COLOMBIA

Why this idea was not brought out before?.....

Anyhow, it is still on time, and THIS is the time.

God Bless you All!

Victory on this, &

Always Victory!.


[name withheld]

 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:45:42 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

Australia

I already voted before but I vote again. You are absolutely right, it is a very important subject matter.

 Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:08:08 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

united states

 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 04:39:59 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

usa

"vengence is mine" sayeth the Lord

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 06:46:28 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

America (Texas)

It is said that God judges us by the intent of the heart. I wonder what the intent of Linda Worobec was when planning this "entertainment"?

I was present for the performance and thought the show was wonderful, by worldly standards.

The point to me is that the high altar should never be used for "entertainment".

Mark always told us that the forcefield of energy at the altar was very delicate and should never be disturbed by worldly energies.

We had "entertainment" of many kinds in years past at many other conferences, but it was never performed in front of the altar, which was always reserved for lectures, decree work and services.

In the flame of Love,

[name withheld]

(32 years as KOF)

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:05:17 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA


 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:43:48 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

mexico

 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:27:41 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

sweden

 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:21:14 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

 

 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:29:48 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

New Zealand

 

 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:01:27 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

The anwer is : PRAYER Afirming The Truth About God and

 Man, his perfect creation ,(spiritual Man) and cast out

the impostor. Lovingly your sister ;

[name withheld]

 Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:00:24 -0600

Yes

 

Hawaii

Please also creat a opinion poll to re elect new leadership at CUT.

 Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:30:12 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:54:44 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:50:29 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

United States

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:28:32 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

US

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:42 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:48:35 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

New Zealand

 

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:38:15 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

australia

My brother you have assessed the incident in a manner I myself would have felt. Thankyou for standing up to be counted.


[name withheld]

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:16:21 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

United States of America

It is my hope that this poll accomplishes the objective. I think it is very important that the Church members finally decide one way or another what to do. And, then STICK to it. For all the time that goes on and on paying attention to these "leaders" that know they are in the wrong......we take away from what needs to be done for the world....i.e.:right now thousands of lives are at stake in Iraq with the horrific threat hanging over our soldiers heads from Sadr.....if mother was with us would we be sending around email asking people to participate in "what should happen" or would we be in King Arthurs Court and our individual study groups, homes, etc. decreeing for the outcome that best serves the world and for the lives of our Soldiers and those of the coalition that are fighting and placing their very lives on the line second by second? It is just ridiculous to me that all the while the dissension goes on in the Church -- men and women keep dying there and elsewhere.....and yet people in the Church just do not get the message...that there are so many IMPORTANT issues at hand......I remember when I would complain growing up I was told that GOD had more important things going on in the world.....and that He got around to all prayer in its due time. The issue of the Church leaders is IMPORTANT - do not get me wrong....but one is supposed to SOLVE a problem - and then move on.....any business that had taken the route the Church has would have gone out of business by now.....nothing survives on dissension....and hey, how do we know that is not the eventual goal here? Perhaps it is a test of how far we will let the Church go down before people get the message and move......

I for one hope something happens soon and we go about the business of the Father.....for this surely is not.

When I joined the Church many years ago it was surely not for this. I joined to accomplish Gods work -- not deter it.

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:51:39 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

United States, Montana

Someone should be held accountable for the division of the Russian group. A mediator should have been sent and not Rev. Patrick Danalhy.

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:56:22 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

Excellent Letter and Excellent Polll

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:38:41 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA resident born in Latvia

Steven, thanks for exposing the lie of the fallen ones.

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:22:14 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 Montravani and The Boston Pops making Beattlesand others more palitable by making the music into an instermental piece, taking the jagged edges off sort of speak is one thing,but playing this music on any alter is an abomination.

 Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:51:55 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

usa

The leadership is in denial about their own power problems. It is time for them to focus on themselves and what they are doing and to stop defending bad acts and throwing out Keepers because they won't bend the knee to leadership, who has not been appointed by the Masters. They are self appointed bodies. They will have to answer after this embodiment even if they are not now. They cannot steal the mantles given by God by self appointing it.

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:58:41 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

Minnesota

We disapprove of the compromise that is evident in some parts of that musical performance. We understand everyone's thoughts and spin on this. But this is not just any sanctuary or venue we're talking about. If compromise is seen as preferable to humility and apology and correction (which would have been the appropriate responses and would have ended the controversy), then compromise is probably seen as ok by leadership with regard to other church matters as well. Just because someone received training from the Messenger/s doesn't mean they will always have proper discernment and it should not be used as a disclaimer or justification for all of their chosen actions.


The writers of these comments and polling shall remain anonymous or they may not be "used" or counted in the tally.


Thank you for seeking to stand for truth and right-use-ness of the Light at our church HQ's altar.

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:28:15 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

U.S.A.

Thank you for being the Watchman on the Wall and for your efforts to overcome this problem. I stand with you.

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:14:11 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

After soul searching, Linda Worobec should admit her mistakes concerning this program. We must be able to

admit our mistakes and ask God's forgiveness, and move on to become more of the Christ.

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:31:03 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:53:02 -0600

Yes

Other

Brazil

 

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:11:15 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

 

 Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:09:58 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:37:18 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

AUSTRALIA/POLAND

 

 Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:39:16 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

USA

Thank you and God bless you.

 Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:18:33 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

USA

 

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:00:46 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

usa

 

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:03:00 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

usa

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF RESPONSES, WORDED RESPONSES YOU HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT YOU DOING THIS. I THINK YOUR CONTEST IS OUT OF LINE IN CONNECTION WITH THIS ISSUE

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:55:40 -0600

Yes

Pearl_Reader

Canada

 

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:52:15 -0600

Yes

Pearl_Reader

USA

If accountable means that she account fully and honestly for her choice to your organization, that she will agree to [through more education} gain approval of any contributions she makes representing the entire organization, based on her evidence supported by teachings, let her do that and let it be a matter dismissed, not for recrimination.


I wonder if this is not a male/female issue?

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:44:52 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

United States of America

 

 Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:42:49 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

 

 

 Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:38:56 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

United States

 

 Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:21:34 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

Colombia

I am completely flabbergasted about htis whole thing and I most certainly appreciate that there is someone speaking up on behalf of Mother. Thank you!!! whoever you are. Thank you very much. Rev Worobec should be striped from her rights to even lead a service, never mind give communion. I just found out about this issue and I am very upset. Mother more than anyone expalined and encouraged us all in the church to study the effect of rock music. I happen to own some conferences on tape where she openly talks about this issue. I think that not only should Rev Worobec and EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS THIS PERSON, should be stripped of their power within CUT. But that's only my personal opinion.

[name withheld]

 Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:36:41 -0600

Yes

 

 

 

 Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:16:22 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Canada

 

 Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:47:45 -0600

Yes

Member_Communicant

U.S.A.

I am appalled at myself that I did not take action when I read this. I remember thinking, that's a downright lie, where did she get that. But, I did nothing!! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Myself & several others from my area are boycotting the summer conference this yr. My first time in 26 yrs that I won't be there. It's so sad, it brings me to tears as I write.

 Sat, 1 May 2004 04:07:07 -0600

Yes

Member_KOF

Netherlands

 

 Sat, 1 May 2004 16:44:51 -0600

Yes

Wont_Say

USA